Ch 12 Journal

     I thought the ending of the book was ok but I wish some of the savages would've gotten killed by the fire.Ralph cries at the end of the novel once the danger is over because he is getting rescued but also he is sad about losing Simon and Piggy. I hate Jack the most because he was mean to Piggy for no reason and acted like he was exempt from consequences of things that happened on the island.If someone had enough time to sit down and enjoy it then i would recommend.I think it is a good read because it is not to long and it is actually entertaining unlike most books.

Ch 11 ?'s

1) Ralph decides to go confront the savages about stealing the fire and getting Piggy's specs back
2)The twins, for the first time notice Ralph's anger towards Jack. ie. the way he is making him feel
3) The plan is bound to fail, Ralph's group still has morals and the savages want to kill sows
4)Roger pushes the rock off the cliff to try and scare Ralph and tell him it was a warning.
5)The destruction of the conch is symbolically significant because it kinda describes how the boys have turned into not being civilized. At first the conch was beautiful and pristine but now its just another shell.
6)The boys wanted a chief so that someone was around to reassure them that they were safe. The chief would be there so they could come to him for comfort or ask about current things on the agenda to do.
7)Why are you not hunting any pigs? Would you beat up Jack and force him to tell everyone that you all need to be in one group again?
8)    The island is still the same as when the book started out. Yet on opposite sides there is two groups of boys. All the boys have gone down hill. They all look really dirty and homely.Most boys are apart of the savage group.
     Only four boys remain with Ralph's group, the main one. The tribe Jack has created have turned into little demented savages that show no remorse. Now Piggy AND Simon are dead because of the actions started by the savages. Being stuck on the island all of the boys have changed. It is safe to say that there is no help for any of the boys to become themselves ever again. 
     

Ch 10 LOTF Response

1)In the beginning of the chapter , Ralph was talking to Piggy saying that Simon's death was a murder, while Piggy believes it was an accident "'That was murder.' 'You stop it!' said piggy shrilly. 'What good're you doing talking like that?'.......'It was an accident.'" (Golding 156-157).When Ralph and Piggy saw the twins they said hi and Samneric quickly said that they got lost in the forest last night. "'We just been in the forest-' '-to get wood for the fire-' '-we got lost last night'" (Golding 158).

2)Ralph and Jack have very different opinions on Simon's death. Ralph claims it is a murder "'That was murder.'" (Golding 156). On the other hand, Jack does not believe that they really killed him "'But didn't we, didn't we--?' He squirmed and looked down. 'No!' In the silence that followed, each savage flinched away from his individual memory. 'No! How could we-kill-it?'" (Golding 160)


3)I believe that Jack is more like a dictator, for ordering Wilfred to be beaten. He is also bossy."'The rest of you can go to sleep as soon as the sun sets" (Golding 161). Jack and two others had gone and ambushed  Ralph, Piggy, and Samneric, in the hut "... Piggy's corner became a complication of snarls and crashes and flying limbs'" (Golding 167)

* Jack is now the official chief, he is the one in possession of the fire starter, Piggy's glasses.
Piggy:Curls in ball, getting beaten,tries throwing punches.
Ralph:Bites fingers, punched someone in the mouth.
Sam:*is getting kicked in the face*
Eric: Knees someone in their "family jewels"
Jack:beats on Piggy, punches people in the face.
Roger:*gets punched in the face by Ralph*, throws punches,scratches.